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Stig's avatar

These people are driven by ideology. They really want to matter and be a force of good.

Blank Slate is their dogma, like the bible is for a Christian. Thus, the environment has to be extremely important, there can be no doubt about it.

Btw an interesting study on classroom environment and its effect on academic achievement was done on identical twins. Some were in the same clasroom and others were separated.

If the teacher or other environmental factors have an effect, the twins who had been in different classrooms should be more different than those who had been together.

But, it turned out that there were no measurable effect.

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Stig's avatar

One study examining the effect of classroom sharing on twins: https://jech.bmj.com/content/jech/64/01/36.full.pdf

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Spencer's avatar

Edit needed: “I speak of Myron A. Hofer’s 1994 New York Times’ opinion piece on The Bell Curve in which *she* rebuked the authors for not citing Rosenthal’s Pygmalion study…”

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Aporia's avatar

All fixed

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Spencer's avatar

Edit needed: “Who can blame the teachers, though, when they’re being trained by the likes of Philip *Zimbado*? Yes, he of Stanford Prison Experiment fame…”

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Spencer's avatar

Edit needed? “It as if Rosenthal et al had measured the heights of the students, placidly recorded that the student body included a few 1-foot-tall students…”

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John McCormack's avatar

Yes, Robert Rosenthal was a fraud. But, he never suffered for that. He remained a Harvard Professor until 1999 when he retired. Check his Wikipedia entry. Google him for a bit. You will find little to nothing about his fraudulent "Pygmalian" study from the late 1960s.

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SamizBOT's avatar

William Briggs once said something along the lines of social scientists do things to numbers you wouldn't want done to a child molester in prison

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High Plains Operator's avatar

Sociology is a joke.

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Will Linden's avatar

“There are no sciences like sociology.” THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH.

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KB's avatar

Social science is not “science”. Furthermore noisy and opinionated “social scientists” and wholly to blame for the public precipitous fall in trust in science.

Unfortunately the biological sciences seem to have fallen prey to “bad science”

And thus we are where we are! 🤷🏽‍♂️

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