"While the Israeli political Left is dead, or at least on the brink of extinction, it is important to note that the Left camp's tight grip on mainstream media, academia, education and culture remains."
What we call the "Left" is a luxury good created by and for secular intellectuals, who worship something they call "Social Justice".
It is designed for societies (and people) that are wealthy and safe, and is a form of faculty-lounge politics where professors and other secular priests compete to see who can build the most beautiful castles in the sky and who can preen as most moral based on various hymns to egalitarian utopianism.
"Social Justice" has never and could never build or protect anything, as it is a decadent parasite designed to "deconstruct" all it comes into contact with. Just like its predecessor, Marxism, it can't survive contact with reality—Israelis are wise to see through it.
The most right wing place in the world is also the most resource scarce...a men's prison. Prisons are segregates by race, governed by well defined hierarchy, and adhere to strict traditions.
Since the norm for humans (and all other organisms) is existing in scarcity and on the edge of survival...then right wing behaviors should be considered the most adaptive and "correct"
Post WW2 prosperity in America has flipped this on it's head, however.
Maybe the final, decadent stage of a civilization is always defined by runaway leftism.
Interesting that the Left is so prone to misdefine human nature. They want to see the good in people and willfully blind themselves to the evil. The ever mounting death toll is staggering. It is a siren's song and the rocks await.
The point is that Sinwar is responsible for every single death in Gaza. It’s his war. And now he’s hiding in his elaborate tunnel system which isn’t open as a bomb shelter but only for Hamas. He’s hiding. He’s responsible.
Continued subjugation by Hamas who steals aid, collaborates with UNWRA, embeds in hospitals and civilian structures, builds miles of well designed air conditioned tunnels systems , steals energy. Yes. That’s the subjugation.
Israel's embrace of the Right is a step in the wrong direction and will not secure either peace or security in the long run. A secular and progressive Israel was attractive to the West, especially after the horrors of the Holocaust, now Israel is increasingly known as a religious ultra-nationalist state run by corrupt leaders who don't care about "optics" or compromise and rely increasingly on semi-demented American Boomers to keep the weapons flowing. This is not a sustainable model.
Id argue that leftism only thrives in extreme prosperity...as it results in a noncompetitive society that doesn't reproduce.
Jews now find themselves in the most competitive, disputed environment on the planet (Fertile Crescent)
They are not going to be survive with virtue signaling and low birthrate....they are becoming right wing out of neccesity.
In an environment like that...the only thing that matters is birthrate and a strong next generation, and a culture must do anything to have a competitive birthrate compared to its adjacent, adversary culture.
They're all a bunch of child killers of various flavours, I wouldn't treat this with too much importance. Commentators are going to fap about leftists getting weakened, Muslims getting killed and its all just so predictable. But times are changing.
If there is a conflict in the world that doesn’t involve Israel or Jews, I’m so sure you are the voice of whomever. I’m sure you would have stood up for German children killed by allied bombs and told the allies to have a cease fire like right after Normandy. I’m positive.
This article rather dances around the main issue. The best frame for looking at Israeli politics is that of a typically post-WW2 Latin American country, divided by between a white ruling class and a brown majority angry about various injustices, real and imagined. In these disputes, the Browns have numbers of their side, but the Whites have the advantage that only they are actually capable of running the place and even the Browns deep down know this and so, for their own self-preservation, typically stop short of seizing full power.,
The difference is that in Latin America the Whites were coded 'Right Wing' and the Browns 'Left Wing' whereas in Israel it is the opposite. This gives the Whites an advantage in that they are supported, rather than constantly undermined, by the 'international community' of global liberalism. On the other hand, it renders the Whites unable to successfully organise in their self interest because the thoughts they need to have to do so are unthinkable to them. Most aspects of Israeli politics make sense when viewed through this prism.
The article relies heavily on Mordechai Kedar. Kedar is a smart, cultivated and civilized man, and his approach to the Arab problem - namely working with and through the clans rather than nationalist or Islamist paramilitaries - is basically correct. However, the fact is that he is, if not quite a traitor to his race, certainly a traitor to his IQ bracket, one of those whose main task is to put lipstick on the Likud pig of ever-greater boorishness, ignorance, corruption, incompetence, capital consumption and deferral to the whims of the stupidest and least productive members of society, people who become worse with each generation as they are perpetually indulged in the cultivation of their worst instincts. The longer I live here and see how every aspect of life is constantly undermined by Likud's core electorate, the more I have come to despise people like him.
Everything is always more complicated than a 3-paragraph summary, but fwiw the Russian party flipped to the 'Left' because as time goes by all other issues, even security, increasingly pale in significance to the ultimate question, the one that dare not speak its name: is Israel a 1st world country or a 3rd world one?
I will be more moderate in my response than I would be otherwise minded to be because I, too, was once an earnest Anglo LARPing as an Israeli and trying to deal with my cognitive dissonance about the reality of the Israeli Right, namely Kakistocracy. So, to address your points directly:
1) Israel's neoliberal (I do not say 'free market' for reasons we can go into if you want) reforms happened at the same time, and for basically the same reasons, as they did across the western world.
2) As in most countries, these reforms were implemented by a mixture of Right wing and Left wing governments, with opposition both on the Right and the Left. Begin's first government, for example, created the worst inflationary crisis in Israel's history by being retarded. Conversely, Rabin's Oslo government passed many neoliberal reforms. Both Shas and Otzmah are far more welfarist than Labour is. Without Bibi, it's quite likely that Likud will default to a similar position since this is what their base (lazy stupid people) want.
Hannah Gal should be congratulated on this piece. It puts into words an argument I have not seen from either the pro-Israel side or the anti-Israel side about the ongoing Gaza operation. Both sides will say this is a war like previous ones fought by Israel over the past half-century. The former will say it is just a military operation with unwanted civilian casualties, while the latter will say it is ethnic cleansing, presumably like the previous wars.
Neither side is right. There has been an ideological shift within Israel's leadership, as well as within much of Israeli society. Previously, Israel's leaders tried to operate within the bounds of the post-1945 liberal consensus. Today, that's no longer the case.
Is there a message in this for the rest of us? There is at least one: the collapse of wokeness will not necessarily lead to something better. I agree we are sleepwalking toward a demographic and genetic disaster. But we will not avert that disaster by following the military adventurists and religious fundamentalists in our midst.
Israel is doing a few things right. It is the only advanced nation that has managed to keep fertility rates above replacement, and not just among religious Israelis. Secular Israelis also enjoy above-replacement fertility. Israel has also managed to contain the new obscurantism of gender theory and race theory that is now sweeping the West.
My fear is that those positive developments will become confounded with the negative ones. The rejection of Israel by Western popular opinion — and its transformation into a pariah state — will lead to a continuation of the Woke cultural revolution.
- the shift toward mass immigration, partly to offset falling birth rates and partly to force high rates of economic growth on mature Western economies (which would otherwise grow more slowly).
As a result of these trends, the mental and behavioral characteristics of Western societies are shifting toward lower cognitive ability, higher time preference, lower thresholds for male violence, and higher thresholds for empathic behavior. Inevitably, we will reach a point where economic production will contract — not for lack of people, but for lack of people who can engage constructively and peacefully in productive activities.
We can get ourselves out of this mess, but achieving that goal will require a long, calm, and patient effort of public education. I have no illusions about popular opinion, and it doesn't bother me to be rejected. The worth of an idea is not measured by its initial popularity.
As for "conservatives" I see nothing to be gained from supporting their current agenda of obscurantism and military adventurism. Our enemy is not China, Russia, or the Muslim world. Our enemy is ourselves, or rather certain dysfunctional aspects of current neo-Western culture.
> By "this mess" I assume you mean the demographic and cognitive decline of much of the world, particularly the West.
And wokeness more generally.
> We can get ourselves out of this mess, but achieving that goal will require a long, calm, and patient effort of public education.
Public education is a large cause of this mess. It's how girls learned that they're failures if they settle for being stay-at-home moms and that they need to put career first. It's how kids are now learning that they need to decide which of the alphabet genders and orientations they are.
The most right wing place in the world is also the most resource scarce...a men's prison. Prisons are segregates by race, governed by well defined hierarchy, and adhere to strict traditions.
Since the norm for humans (and all other organisms) is existing in scarcity and on the edge of survival...then right wing behaviors should be considered the most adaptive and "correct"
Post WW2 prosperity in America has flipped this on it's head, however.
Maybe the final, decadent stage of a civilization is always defined by runaway leftism.
The British had rights of conquest. That's a pretty big deal. Who didn't have rights were the local Arabs, they never had rights. Not under the Ottoman Empire and certainly not after aligning with the Kaiser in WWI and Hitler in WWII. (I am aware that some Arabs aligned with the allies in exchange for the promise of land, which was given to them.)
Any Arab rights to the region are also based on the old Arab Empire's right of conquest, thus they're hardly in a position to protest being conquered by the Turks they had originally brought in to serve as slave soldiers.
"The British had rights of conquest. That's a pretty big deal."
The British have had the hegemon attitude for centuries. They are now a weak, sad vassal of the new would-be world hegemon, the United States. The United States' position as a world power is soon to end.
Jews (zionists) had been buying land in Palestine from willing sellers since the late 1800s, with the blessing of the Ottoman Empire. There never was such a thing as Palestinian land, the region was either Ottoman or Mandate under British control until declared a state by the UN in 1948. It was settled by Jews, defended by Jews and Jews mean to hold it. This is a surprisingly easy concept to grasp.
"There never was such a thing as Palestinian land, the region was either Ottoman or Mandate under British control until declared a state by the UN in 1948."
The British were there as hegemons; they had no rights at all.
I have an Israeli relative who used to work for Merav Michaeli a few years ago. My relative was in her 20s. Michaeli bullied and intimidated her female staff. My relative quit due to that atmosphere. Typical to many ‘feminists’ Michaeli loved women in general but was a cruel person to women in particular.
And then the UN mandated a division of the land between the Jews and Arabs. The UN had the authority to do so by right of conquest. When the Arabs rejected the UN offer of land and attacked the new nation of Israel, they were defeated in battle. Israel now holds the land by right of conquest. They have every right to continue to meet a threat against them by violence. Why wouldn't they?
Actually the UN *did not* have the right to partition the land. Furthermore:
The 1947 UN Partition Plan
29 November 1947
The UN resolution was a suggestion not a decision.
It was not binding as the UN did not have the authority to enforce a partition plan.
Jews at that time owned at most 6-7% of the land at this time. Under the proposal, they would be granted 8 times the land that they legally owned. This would be clearly unfair to Arab speaking residents of the land.
Let's consider a different suggestion, one in which Jews and Arabs were granted land purely based on their population, with each human being treated equally. Even by this standard the proposal was incredibly unfair.
1. Population Proportions:
- Jewish Population: 33% of the total population.
- Arab Population: 67% of the total population.
2. Land Allocation According to the UN Plan:
- Jews: Allocated 56% of the land.
- Arabs: Allocated 44% of the land.
3. Expected vs. Actual Land Allocation:
- Ideally, Jews should have received 33% and Arabs 67% of the land, based on population size.
4. Calculation of Relative Value:
- Jewish Allocation:
- Actual: 56%
- Proportional: 33%
- Ratio: 56/33≈1.73356 ≈1.7
- Arab Allocation:
- Actual: 44%
- Proportional: 67%
- Ratio: 44/67≈0.666744 ≈0.66
5. Relative Valuation Calculations:
- Jews to Arabs: Calculated as 1.7/0.66 ≈ 2.58. This indicates that a Jewish individual was valued approximately 2.58 times more than an Arab individual in terms of land allocation under the 1947 UN Partition Plan.
- Arabs to Jews: Calculated as 0.66/1.7 ≈ 0.39. This implies that an Arab individual was valued as about 0.39 of a Jewish individual in the same context.
6. Comparative Value:
- A Jewish person was treated as approximately 2.58 times more of an individual compared to an Arab person.
- Conversely, an Arab person was treated as approximately 0.39 of a Jew in terms of land allocation ratios.
The partition plan was essentially suggesting that Arab speaking inhabitants of Palestine should accept a proposal treating them as less than 2/5th of a Jewish individual, a level of discrimination more extreme than the 3/5ths law applied to enslaved humans in America. Whether we look at legal land ownership, or population size, this proposal was unjust.
In addition to that, Benny Morris an israeli historian notes that Zionists were ethnically cleansing the land *before* the arabs launched their defensive war. Furthermore, there is plenty of evidence Zionists were planning this well ahead of time. They thought they could slaughter and terrorize a bunch of peasants and have peace. It's instead Palestinians who have the right to defend themselves against Israelis.
When it comes to high value land (like the Fertile Crescent)....MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.
The population that has the abilities to protect is borders (and thus, create a safe environment for women and children) is the population that "deserves" the land. Any intervention to the contrary would be disrupting a complex system and putting women and children at undue risk of danger via invasion.
Jews use IQ and social manipulation as a survival strategy...of course they will be the ones who have the international community on their side and thier assistance in land battles. They have a right to fight for survival like the rest of us.
There is no end to the grievance chain and you can assign blame and entitlement endlessly as you examine the historical iterations of conflict....but it makes no difference.
"The population that has the abilities to protect is borders (and thus, create a safe environment for women and children) is the population that "deserves" the land. Any intervention to the contrary would be disrupting a complex system and putting women and children at undue risk of danger via invasion."
Yeah, using the southern US border as an example. LOL
Id argue that this concept holds true for the Southern US border.
If a culture is so disfunctional that it's internal politics make it impossible to enforce a simple border....then that culture does not deserve to survive.
Better to have an invading culture take over and install a patriarchy that is not suspectable to this weakness. (Which is exactly what's happening)
If we can't get our women and their misfiring maternal impulses out of politics...then this is unavoidable
"While the Israeli political Left is dead, or at least on the brink of extinction, it is important to note that the Left camp's tight grip on mainstream media, academia, education and culture remains."
What we call the "Left" is a luxury good created by and for secular intellectuals, who worship something they call "Social Justice".
It is designed for societies (and people) that are wealthy and safe, and is a form of faculty-lounge politics where professors and other secular priests compete to see who can build the most beautiful castles in the sky and who can preen as most moral based on various hymns to egalitarian utopianism.
"Social Justice" has never and could never build or protect anything, as it is a decadent parasite designed to "deconstruct" all it comes into contact with. Just like its predecessor, Marxism, it can't survive contact with reality—Israelis are wise to see through it.
I agree that leftism needs prosperity to thrive.
The most right wing place in the world is also the most resource scarce...a men's prison. Prisons are segregates by race, governed by well defined hierarchy, and adhere to strict traditions.
Since the norm for humans (and all other organisms) is existing in scarcity and on the edge of survival...then right wing behaviors should be considered the most adaptive and "correct"
Post WW2 prosperity in America has flipped this on it's head, however.
Maybe the final, decadent stage of a civilization is always defined by runaway leftism.
Interesting that the Left is so prone to misdefine human nature. They want to see the good in people and willfully blind themselves to the evil. The ever mounting death toll is staggering. It is a siren's song and the rocks await.
Excellent article.
Here is a video of Scott Ritter responding to an atrocious act committed by the evil Israeli military.
But I suppose you Israeli apologists have some justification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8KXnzQCq0
The point here should be the mass killing of humans by that asshole Netanyahu.
The point is that Sinwar is responsible for every single death in Gaza. It’s his war. And now he’s hiding in his elaborate tunnel system which isn’t open as a bomb shelter but only for Hamas. He’s hiding. He’s responsible.
"The point is that Sinwar is responsible for every single death in Gaza."
You mean everything would be fine if the Gazans would accept continued subjugation.
Continued subjugation by Hamas who steals aid, collaborates with UNWRA, embeds in hospitals and civilian structures, builds miles of well designed air conditioned tunnels systems , steals energy. Yes. That’s the subjugation.
He is less evil than most israelis
Israelis are not evil.
Israel's embrace of the Right is a step in the wrong direction and will not secure either peace or security in the long run. A secular and progressive Israel was attractive to the West, especially after the horrors of the Holocaust, now Israel is increasingly known as a religious ultra-nationalist state run by corrupt leaders who don't care about "optics" or compromise and rely increasingly on semi-demented American Boomers to keep the weapons flowing. This is not a sustainable model.
Id argue that leftism only thrives in extreme prosperity...as it results in a noncompetitive society that doesn't reproduce.
Jews now find themselves in the most competitive, disputed environment on the planet (Fertile Crescent)
They are not going to be survive with virtue signaling and low birthrate....they are becoming right wing out of neccesity.
In an environment like that...the only thing that matters is birthrate and a strong next generation, and a culture must do anything to have a competitive birthrate compared to its adjacent, adversary culture.
I think this is what we are seeing in Israel.
Interesting thought...........
Ok but...why on Aporia?
"Ok but...why on Aporia?"
Well, it is not OK, but good question. Why on Aporia?
"Well, it is not OK" come again?
I thought you were replying to Luke Croft.
Who were you replying to? My comment shows no reply.
I don't care for the system of replies used here.
This article is not great. The Israeli left just got replaced by the center. Gantz is the new Rabin.
They're all a bunch of child killers of various flavours, I wouldn't treat this with too much importance. Commentators are going to fap about leftists getting weakened, Muslims getting killed and its all just so predictable. But times are changing.
If there is a conflict in the world that doesn’t involve Israel or Jews, I’m so sure you are the voice of whomever. I’m sure you would have stood up for German children killed by allied bombs and told the allies to have a cease fire like right after Normandy. I’m positive.
This article rather dances around the main issue. The best frame for looking at Israeli politics is that of a typically post-WW2 Latin American country, divided by between a white ruling class and a brown majority angry about various injustices, real and imagined. In these disputes, the Browns have numbers of their side, but the Whites have the advantage that only they are actually capable of running the place and even the Browns deep down know this and so, for their own self-preservation, typically stop short of seizing full power.,
The difference is that in Latin America the Whites were coded 'Right Wing' and the Browns 'Left Wing' whereas in Israel it is the opposite. This gives the Whites an advantage in that they are supported, rather than constantly undermined, by the 'international community' of global liberalism. On the other hand, it renders the Whites unable to successfully organise in their self interest because the thoughts they need to have to do so are unthinkable to them. Most aspects of Israeli politics make sense when viewed through this prism.
The article relies heavily on Mordechai Kedar. Kedar is a smart, cultivated and civilized man, and his approach to the Arab problem - namely working with and through the clans rather than nationalist or Islamist paramilitaries - is basically correct. However, the fact is that he is, if not quite a traitor to his race, certainly a traitor to his IQ bracket, one of those whose main task is to put lipstick on the Likud pig of ever-greater boorishness, ignorance, corruption, incompetence, capital consumption and deferral to the whims of the stupidest and least productive members of society, people who become worse with each generation as they are perpetually indulged in the cultivation of their worst instincts. The longer I live here and see how every aspect of life is constantly undermined by Likud's core electorate, the more I have come to despise people like him.
Everything is always more complicated than a 3-paragraph summary, but fwiw the Russian party flipped to the 'Left' because as time goes by all other issues, even security, increasingly pale in significance to the ultimate question, the one that dare not speak its name: is Israel a 1st world country or a 3rd world one?
I will be more moderate in my response than I would be otherwise minded to be because I, too, was once an earnest Anglo LARPing as an Israeli and trying to deal with my cognitive dissonance about the reality of the Israeli Right, namely Kakistocracy. So, to address your points directly:
1) Israel's neoliberal (I do not say 'free market' for reasons we can go into if you want) reforms happened at the same time, and for basically the same reasons, as they did across the western world.
2) As in most countries, these reforms were implemented by a mixture of Right wing and Left wing governments, with opposition both on the Right and the Left. Begin's first government, for example, created the worst inflationary crisis in Israel's history by being retarded. Conversely, Rabin's Oslo government passed many neoliberal reforms. Both Shas and Otzmah are far more welfarist than Labour is. Without Bibi, it's quite likely that Likud will default to a similar position since this is what their base (lazy stupid people) want.
Well, we disagree.
Hannah Gal should be congratulated on this piece. It puts into words an argument I have not seen from either the pro-Israel side or the anti-Israel side about the ongoing Gaza operation. Both sides will say this is a war like previous ones fought by Israel over the past half-century. The former will say it is just a military operation with unwanted civilian casualties, while the latter will say it is ethnic cleansing, presumably like the previous wars.
Neither side is right. There has been an ideological shift within Israel's leadership, as well as within much of Israeli society. Previously, Israel's leaders tried to operate within the bounds of the post-1945 liberal consensus. Today, that's no longer the case.
Is there a message in this for the rest of us? There is at least one: the collapse of wokeness will not necessarily lead to something better. I agree we are sleepwalking toward a demographic and genetic disaster. But we will not avert that disaster by following the military adventurists and religious fundamentalists in our midst.
Israel is doing a few things right. It is the only advanced nation that has managed to keep fertility rates above replacement, and not just among religious Israelis. Secular Israelis also enjoy above-replacement fertility. Israel has also managed to contain the new obscurantism of gender theory and race theory that is now sweeping the West.
My fear is that those positive developments will become confounded with the negative ones. The rejection of Israel by Western popular opinion — and its transformation into a pariah state — will lead to a continuation of the Woke cultural revolution.
> But we will not avert that disaster by following the military adventurists and religious fundamentalists in our midst.
Right, you'd rather we listen to the technocrats who got us into this mess in the first place.
> The rejection of Israel by Western popular opinion
Any solution to our problems would be rejected by "popular Western opinion".
By "this mess" I assume you mean the demographic and cognitive decline of much of the world, particularly the West.
That "mess" is a result of two demographic trends:
- the decline in family size of the middle class from the late 19th century onward https://peterfrost.substack.com/p/the-great-decline
- the shift toward mass immigration, partly to offset falling birth rates and partly to force high rates of economic growth on mature Western economies (which would otherwise grow more slowly).
As a result of these trends, the mental and behavioral characteristics of Western societies are shifting toward lower cognitive ability, higher time preference, lower thresholds for male violence, and higher thresholds for empathic behavior. Inevitably, we will reach a point where economic production will contract — not for lack of people, but for lack of people who can engage constructively and peacefully in productive activities.
We can get ourselves out of this mess, but achieving that goal will require a long, calm, and patient effort of public education. I have no illusions about popular opinion, and it doesn't bother me to be rejected. The worth of an idea is not measured by its initial popularity.
As for "conservatives" I see nothing to be gained from supporting their current agenda of obscurantism and military adventurism. Our enemy is not China, Russia, or the Muslim world. Our enemy is ourselves, or rather certain dysfunctional aspects of current neo-Western culture.
> By "this mess" I assume you mean the demographic and cognitive decline of much of the world, particularly the West.
And wokeness more generally.
> We can get ourselves out of this mess, but achieving that goal will require a long, calm, and patient effort of public education.
Public education is a large cause of this mess. It's how girls learned that they're failures if they settle for being stay-at-home moms and that they need to put career first. It's how kids are now learning that they need to decide which of the alphabet genders and orientations they are.
By "public education" I mean available to the public, like this website. I don't think Aporia Magazine will ever become required reading for kids.
I agree that leftism needs prosperity to thrive.
The most right wing place in the world is also the most resource scarce...a men's prison. Prisons are segregates by race, governed by well defined hierarchy, and adhere to strict traditions.
Since the norm for humans (and all other organisms) is existing in scarcity and on the edge of survival...then right wing behaviors should be considered the most adaptive and "correct"
Post WW2 prosperity in America has flipped this on it's head, however.
Maybe the final, decadent stage of a civilization is always defined by runaway leftism.
The British had rights of conquest. That's a pretty big deal. Who didn't have rights were the local Arabs, they never had rights. Not under the Ottoman Empire and certainly not after aligning with the Kaiser in WWI and Hitler in WWII. (I am aware that some Arabs aligned with the allies in exchange for the promise of land, which was given to them.)
Any Arab rights to the region are also based on the old Arab Empire's right of conquest, thus they're hardly in a position to protest being conquered by the Turks they had originally brought in to serve as slave soldiers.
That's the thing about conquest. You only get to keep what you can hold. History is always complicated and talking of rights seems a bit silly.
"The British had rights of conquest. That's a pretty big deal."
The British have had the hegemon attitude for centuries. They are now a weak, sad vassal of the new would-be world hegemon, the United States. The United States' position as a world power is soon to end.
That is a meaningless response. Cheers.
"That is a meaningless response. Cheers."
You responded to my comment with an inane reply demonstrating that you are devoid of self-awareness.
There is no mention of the fact that the Zionists, with the help of the UK, stole Palestinian land in 1948 to create Israel.
Jews (zionists) had been buying land in Palestine from willing sellers since the late 1800s, with the blessing of the Ottoman Empire. There never was such a thing as Palestinian land, the region was either Ottoman or Mandate under British control until declared a state by the UN in 1948. It was settled by Jews, defended by Jews and Jews mean to hold it. This is a surprisingly easy concept to grasp.
"There never was such a thing as Palestinian land, the region was either Ottoman or Mandate under British control until declared a state by the UN in 1948."
The British were there as hegemons; they had no rights at all.
The Arabs occupied that land for 2000 years.
This is a surprisingly easy concept to grasp.
I have an Israeli relative who used to work for Merav Michaeli a few years ago. My relative was in her 20s. Michaeli bullied and intimidated her female staff. My relative quit due to that atmosphere. Typical to many ‘feminists’ Michaeli loved women in general but was a cruel person to women in particular.
they owned 6-7% of the land at most by 1947.
And then the UN mandated a division of the land between the Jews and Arabs. The UN had the authority to do so by right of conquest. When the Arabs rejected the UN offer of land and attacked the new nation of Israel, they were defeated in battle. Israel now holds the land by right of conquest. They have every right to continue to meet a threat against them by violence. Why wouldn't they?
Actually the UN *did not* have the right to partition the land. Furthermore:
The 1947 UN Partition Plan
29 November 1947
The UN resolution was a suggestion not a decision.
It was not binding as the UN did not have the authority to enforce a partition plan.
Jews at that time owned at most 6-7% of the land at this time. Under the proposal, they would be granted 8 times the land that they legally owned. This would be clearly unfair to Arab speaking residents of the land.
Let's consider a different suggestion, one in which Jews and Arabs were granted land purely based on their population, with each human being treated equally. Even by this standard the proposal was incredibly unfair.
1. Population Proportions:
- Jewish Population: 33% of the total population.
- Arab Population: 67% of the total population.
2. Land Allocation According to the UN Plan:
- Jews: Allocated 56% of the land.
- Arabs: Allocated 44% of the land.
3. Expected vs. Actual Land Allocation:
- Ideally, Jews should have received 33% and Arabs 67% of the land, based on population size.
4. Calculation of Relative Value:
- Jewish Allocation:
- Actual: 56%
- Proportional: 33%
- Ratio: 56/33≈1.73356 ≈1.7
- Arab Allocation:
- Actual: 44%
- Proportional: 67%
- Ratio: 44/67≈0.666744 ≈0.66
5. Relative Valuation Calculations:
- Jews to Arabs: Calculated as 1.7/0.66 ≈ 2.58. This indicates that a Jewish individual was valued approximately 2.58 times more than an Arab individual in terms of land allocation under the 1947 UN Partition Plan.
- Arabs to Jews: Calculated as 0.66/1.7 ≈ 0.39. This implies that an Arab individual was valued as about 0.39 of a Jewish individual in the same context.
6. Comparative Value:
- A Jewish person was treated as approximately 2.58 times more of an individual compared to an Arab person.
- Conversely, an Arab person was treated as approximately 0.39 of a Jew in terms of land allocation ratios.
The partition plan was essentially suggesting that Arab speaking inhabitants of Palestine should accept a proposal treating them as less than 2/5th of a Jewish individual, a level of discrimination more extreme than the 3/5ths law applied to enslaved humans in America. Whether we look at legal land ownership, or population size, this proposal was unjust.
In addition to that, Benny Morris an israeli historian notes that Zionists were ethnically cleansing the land *before* the arabs launched their defensive war. Furthermore, there is plenty of evidence Zionists were planning this well ahead of time. They thought they could slaughter and terrorize a bunch of peasants and have peace. It's instead Palestinians who have the right to defend themselves against Israelis.
https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/the-war-of-1948-was-inevitable-self-defense-for-israel/
I know you are aware thay Arab states received five countries from Egypt to Iraq and Israel got a small portion of original Judea, right?
I know you are aware that UN recognized Israel as a sovereign nation, right?
For someone that bills himself as a realist you come off as fantastical.......
"For someone that bills himself as a realist you come off as fantastical......."
I'm sure that is true for those who have no basis in reality.
When it comes to high value land (like the Fertile Crescent)....MIGHT MAKES RIGHT.
The population that has the abilities to protect is borders (and thus, create a safe environment for women and children) is the population that "deserves" the land. Any intervention to the contrary would be disrupting a complex system and putting women and children at undue risk of danger via invasion.
Jews use IQ and social manipulation as a survival strategy...of course they will be the ones who have the international community on their side and thier assistance in land battles. They have a right to fight for survival like the rest of us.
There is no end to the grievance chain and you can assign blame and entitlement endlessly as you examine the historical iterations of conflict....but it makes no difference.
In the end...MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
"The population that has the abilities to protect is borders (and thus, create a safe environment for women and children) is the population that "deserves" the land. Any intervention to the contrary would be disrupting a complex system and putting women and children at undue risk of danger via invasion."
Yeah, using the southern US border as an example. LOL
You have a caveman mentality
Id argue that this concept holds true for the Southern US border.
If a culture is so disfunctional that it's internal politics make it impossible to enforce a simple border....then that culture does not deserve to survive.
Better to have an invading culture take over and install a patriarchy that is not suspectable to this weakness. (Which is exactly what's happening)
If we can't get our women and their misfiring maternal impulses out of politics...then this is unavoidable
How boring. This article is reality based. You are not. Go back to your agit prop from Norman finkekstein.