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Peter Frost's avatar

I agree with your two main points:

- To reverse the fertility decline, financial incentives aren’t enough. We need to shift our culture in a pro-natalist direction

- To do that, we need some kind of religion that can guide its members in that direction, while insulating them from the antinatalism of our current culture.

I also agree that Israel is an example to follow. In that country, even secular Jews are having above-replacement fertility. This has happened because the government has striven to make family formation not only affordable but also normal and expectable. Visitors often remark that “this is a country where hot chicks have kids!”

I disagree with some of your secondary points. Financial incentives can help shift cultural norms. Once we have enough people having children, other people will want to follow because humans tend to be imitative and conformist. This is a big reason for the current fertility collapse. Wherever childlessness is sufficiently widespread, it becomes the cultural norm, and people with children will begin to feel isolated and even freakish.

I also disagree with your argument that “an ethnic group that seeks to counteract low fertility by restricting immigration is actually speeding up its extinction.” Yes, if we look at Europe, we see that fertility rates are higher in northwest Europe, even among the indigenous inhabitants, and that is also where we find the largest immigrant communities. There is a link between the two demographic trends, but I think it’s less direct:

- Northwest Europeans have been more open to immigration partly because they have a long history of individualism, individual rights, and weak kinship ties.

- For the same reason, they are more accustomed to having children without assistance from kin (aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.)

- Modernity, and the social atomization that comes with it, thus has a less dramatic effect on their fertility rates than it does on the fertility rates of other societies, where kin are supposed to play a role in family formation.

Fertility rates will thus plummet in any kin-oriented society that adopts our cultural/economic model of individualism and high labor mobility.

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Person Online's avatar

While I agree that instilling the value of childbearing as a religious value in one's own children is a good pro-fertility move, I'm not sure that I really see the point of trying to make a "new religion" out of it. Plenty of regular, non-Amish Christians can and do teach their children that it is important that they, too, have children of their own. Attempting to frame this as a "new religion" seems like adding a lot of extra baggage for no extra value, and comes across as being motivated by simple anti-Christian animus.

With that said, my personal belief from everything I've read and observed, is that the only means of raising fertility rates (other than simply waiting out the current decline) would be to effectively ban women from large sectors of the economy, accomplished through both cultural and legal means. As you correctly point out, there is an unavoidable tradeoff between productivity and fertility. If we want more fertility, we must remove productivity as a viable path. Perhaps that is not actually possible. Perhaps people don't like that answer and won't go for it. But I do believe it's the only thing that would actually work--a world in which women mostly don't work, except perhaps in a select few areas, and a childless woman is seen as a low-status failure.

I can't really blame women for not having children in a world where we expect them to be the same as men when it comes to the economy, jobs, career, etc. The costs of children are real and very high, and disproportionately borne by the woman. Of course they don't feel prepared to pay that price if they already work some corporate job 40+ hours a week.

The other option, as I mentioned above, is to just wait it out. Fertility isn't going to somehow keep declining down to 0 such that humans actually go extinct. At some point, rates will level off or even reverse. But what that will look like is anyone's guess, and it very well might be after everyone reading this post are all dead.

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