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No Name's avatar

This is a very good article. In general, the author of this article is just very good and always brings joy.

Of course, there is a great irony in what people perceive as "progress" and what it actually is.

A society dominated demographically, culturally, and politically by white men with a capitalist economy and a combination of "economically free neoliberal" and "fascist dirigiste" economic policies (and, according to some studies, a right-wing government- https://x.com/UBERSOY1/status/1929663833997824430 ) it would be the most REALLY progressive - the most productive in terms of technological innovation, real economic growth, etc.it's like the USA of the 1920s or 1950s, or maybe Francoist Spain.

But the average person thinks that "progress" is living in a place like South Africa: lots of "coloreds," decolonization, feminism, immigration, homosexuality, lots of women with tattoos and promiscuous sex, high crime rates, and childlessness and divorce.

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No Name's avatar

For people like Richard Hanania, this is probably ideological suicide: feminism, which he loves so much, or the emigration of hundreds of thousands of Indians, is the destruction of progress. And the power and dominance of conservative white men is pure progress, both in terms of AI and nuclear energy, etc.

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The Futurist Right's avatar

I wish we had current-or-former partners position level data on these poll questions. The gaps actually seem smaller than I'd expect. But I think I've maybe once met a non-lesbian woman who was more 'pro-progress' on any particular issue than her spouse or current long-term boyfriend.

This makes the repeal feminization case a whole lot stronger.

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A. Hairyhanded Gent's avatar

Seriously, I think that the only way to reverse the trend toward civilizational feminization, especially in the industrialized nations and the west in particular, would be a protracted and imminent existential threat.

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Christos Raxiotis's avatar

The problem is not women, it is the men with authority who enabled them and allowed them to positions of power without fostering the importance of defendig truth and honesty before like they historicaly did with their male peers. Essentialy simping made that possible, women can be molded into supporting technological progress, just like young men who start out on the left have done before. Therefor any policy that discriminates based on gender to fix this issue isn’t only gonna be unpopular but unfair also. We have to filter out people who aren’t up to the task regardless of gender, and be comfortable if women’s participation drops in the process.

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A. Hairyhanded Gent's avatar

FWIW, I think there's a lot in what you're saying.

This currently held idea that women are born fearful and anxious, seeking safety above all else, is very simplistic. As you say, females, like males, are culturally malleable to a degree. While it may be statistically true that women, as a group, evolved to needing more help and protection than men, as a group--and I'd say that childbirth and rearing are the main precondition--they can still support the sort of progress that the author identifies, rather than recoil from it in anxiety as is happening more since 1970, apparently.

I do think, however, that an intrinsic part of this supportive attitude toward male-driven progress in females requires the acceptance of practical gender roles. Of course, this means modern feminized men would need to be open to adopting some male roles that are based in reality and practicality, as well.

oh, well!...

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Bob's avatar

There is no putting the toothpaste back in the tube. We must go forward _through_ our difficulties.

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Terry Farrah's avatar

“The whole thing’s got to go” —what thing? Equal opportunity for women?

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hypatiasdaughter's avatar

It seems the subtext is removing women from the public sphere like ancient Athens.

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Terry Farrah's avatar

Ha ha ha ha ha ha it's got to be something draconian like that otherwise the writer would have spoken plainly. How did this article make its way to my inbox?

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hypatiasdaughter's avatar

Yes. Getting stealth Doug Wilson vibes.

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National Rust's avatar

Progress is apparently androgenic depletion of the progressivised male of the Liberal Nation State.

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A. Hairyhanded Gent's avatar

Simply put, a sharp increase in metrosexuals?

;^)

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