Jamaica was probably a lot more peaceful in the years immediately preceding independence, when both Ian Fleming and Noel Coward had their primary residences there.
It would be interesting to look at a combined homicide + incarceration rates statistics and see if that tracks more accurately across demographics- Bukele famously slashed murder rates by essentially locking up every major criminal gang in the country. But the point is taken.
"Emil Kierkegaard maintains that violent behavior, which is highly heritable, varies in frequency across ancestries—being more common among Africans and less common among Asians."
Well...Japanese people killed perhaps 15-30 million other Asians from 1931 to 1945, and tortured, raped, and injured millions of others by various means, from bayonet practice on living Chinese to bombings that flattened whole cities. The Japanese were also quite cruel to each other and to anyone who dissented from the national madness.
Mass violence in China was quite common from 1949 through the end of the Cultural Revolution. Millions died. If you talk to someone who lived through it, they will tell you about things like this: being forced to watch the torture and murder of one of their own schoolteachers, and cheer it on. Red Guards dropped out of college, formed competing cadres, and started shooting each other in pitched battles in the streets.
The Cambodians managed to kill off about a fifth of their own population in a very short period.
And North Korea is constantly perpetrating violence against its own population.
And then there were the Mongols...
True, street crime is lower in these countries. But violence isn't just street crime. Once Asians get going, they can outdo just about any other group.
So I don't think Emil Kierkegaard has any idea what he's talking about. Is he 19 or something? Has he ever opened a history book?
Not consistently. The Cultural Revolution spiraled out of control quite rapidly and turned into mass killings and torture that were not under the direction of any central authority. Ultimately Mao brought the Red Guards under control with the military.
In Japan, domestically, there was plenty of informal abuse and terrorizing of dissenters.
However, neither my point nor Kierkegaard's was basically about impulse control.
War (including civil war) is the time when the person perceived by a credibly large enough number of people to be an authority tells you to go out and murder and burn down buildings for the glory of your people or your cause or religion. In other words, they tell you to become a hero by doing things that in normal circumstances get you hanged or executed in some other grisly way. Mao's Cultural Revolution was a self-coup (autogolpe) on a grand scale to purge elements suspected of lacking revolutionary fervor. Maybe best described as Stalinist purges with added hysterical theatrics. War is a "state of exception" (to use Schmittian terms), long term low intensity conflicts like the US war of 20 years in Afghanistan are the exception to the exception. Less than 2000 US military deaths in 20 years. Korean War about 60,000 in three years, Vietnam War about 60,000 almost entirely in the period from 1965-72.
Jamaica was probably a lot more peaceful in the years immediately preceding independence, when both Ian Fleming and Noel Coward had their primary residences there.
"Why do Black areas have such high rates of violence?"
Because on average, blacks have less self-control.
To be fair, this rate has varied historically (e.g, the 1950s), even when you look back at historical periods with much lower incarceration rates.
"To be fair, this rate has varied historically (e.g, the 1950s), even when you look back at historical periods with much lower incarceration rates."
To what do you attribute the 'transition'? Perhaps the ramifications of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
It would be interesting to look at a combined homicide + incarceration rates statistics and see if that tracks more accurately across demographics- Bukele famously slashed murder rates by essentially locking up every major criminal gang in the country. But the point is taken.
It's not rocket science: low IQ --> high murder rate; average black IQ low --> high black murder rate.
"Emil Kierkegaard maintains that violent behavior, which is highly heritable, varies in frequency across ancestries—being more common among Africans and less common among Asians."
Well...Japanese people killed perhaps 15-30 million other Asians from 1931 to 1945, and tortured, raped, and injured millions of others by various means, from bayonet practice on living Chinese to bombings that flattened whole cities. The Japanese were also quite cruel to each other and to anyone who dissented from the national madness.
Mass violence in China was quite common from 1949 through the end of the Cultural Revolution. Millions died. If you talk to someone who lived through it, they will tell you about things like this: being forced to watch the torture and murder of one of their own schoolteachers, and cheer it on. Red Guards dropped out of college, formed competing cadres, and started shooting each other in pitched battles in the streets.
The Cambodians managed to kill off about a fifth of their own population in a very short period.
And North Korea is constantly perpetrating violence against its own population.
And then there were the Mongols...
True, street crime is lower in these countries. But violence isn't just street crime. Once Asians get going, they can outdo just about any other group.
So I don't think Emil Kierkegaard has any idea what he's talking about. Is he 19 or something? Has he ever opened a history book?
Aren't the examples of Asian killings examples of planned violence; the opposite of problems of impulse control.
"Aren't the examples of Asian killings examples of planned violence; the opposite of problems of impulse control."
Absolutely. Not only was it planned, but the controlling government body planned it. This, of course, does not excuse such atrocities.
Not consistently. The Cultural Revolution spiraled out of control quite rapidly and turned into mass killings and torture that were not under the direction of any central authority. Ultimately Mao brought the Red Guards under control with the military.
In Japan, domestically, there was plenty of informal abuse and terrorizing of dissenters.
However, neither my point nor Kierkegaard's was basically about impulse control.
War (including civil war) is the time when the person perceived by a credibly large enough number of people to be an authority tells you to go out and murder and burn down buildings for the glory of your people or your cause or religion. In other words, they tell you to become a hero by doing things that in normal circumstances get you hanged or executed in some other grisly way. Mao's Cultural Revolution was a self-coup (autogolpe) on a grand scale to purge elements suspected of lacking revolutionary fervor. Maybe best described as Stalinist purges with added hysterical theatrics. War is a "state of exception" (to use Schmittian terms), long term low intensity conflicts like the US war of 20 years in Afghanistan are the exception to the exception. Less than 2000 US military deaths in 20 years. Korean War about 60,000 in three years, Vietnam War about 60,000 almost entirely in the period from 1965-72.