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Michael Magoon's avatar

This is a very interesting article that makes a large number of very good points, but in the end, I disagree with your conclusions. I also learned a great deal about the political beliefs of Americans of Asian ancestry. They seem to have income and political beliefs that roughly track Jewish Americans.

I do not consider myself a member of the "Tech Right" although I agree with them on many issues and did work for 20 years in the Digital Technology sector. Moreover, I recently wrote an article advocating for a combination of:

1) A complete overhaul of American immigration policy that exclusively allows in highly-skilled workers who can make the greatest contributions to the nation. This means eliminating virtually all other types of legal immigration.

2) Strict enforcement against illegal immigrants both at the border and internally.

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/we-need-a-skills-based-immigration

One of my major criticisms of the Right (both tech and HBD) is that it does not put enough emphasis on promoting long-term economic growth and upward mobility for the working class. I largely agree with the Right in their cultural opposition to the Left particularly the Woke, but those are not the only issues that matter.

I believe that a skill-based immigration policy is important to promoting economic growth and I am willing to take the chance that an increased number of highly-skilled immigrants from Asia will push the educated classes further to the Left. Either way, we have a fight coming for the political allegiance of the college-educated.

I do not see a zero-immigration policy or anything close to it as politically viable. Even if it were implemented, it would be a short-term fix that would likely revert back to the current situation in later years.

We are either going to have mass immigration of low-skilled workers or mass immigration of high-skilled workers. I think the American people will prefer the latter, and it would be far better for long-term economic and demographic growth.

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I came to the same conclusion, though I had a very different attitude twenty years ago and used to have a very high opinion of East Asians who I was surrounded by in high school.

First, once they get through the fresh off the boat stage, Asians become very progressive. I've watched it happen to many close friends, regardless of underlying personality type.

Second, Asians tend to be much more nepotistic. I'm surrounded by Indian government contractors in NOVA and the local hospital chain is dominated by Indians. They hire each other and are ruthless about it. As noted, the objection to affirmative action is entirely self interested, they support racial set asides for themselves just not anyone else.

They also tend not to care about the work result. Not that they don't try to perform, but it's not the primary goal. If you follow the process as process and it doesn't work and you get paid, that is all the matters. This is especially toxic when the government is the payer or you have to deal with them as medical providers.

The attitude towards authority, education, and safetyism are very left wing. They all went INSANE during COVID. And the local school district has flipped blue due to their presence and pushes DEI, trans, and just voted for collective bargaining.

On a "GDP" basis I'm supposed to be enamored to live in one of the richests areas in the world, and all these Indians are "adding to GDP". But mostly I hate the effects they have on the local politics and culture, think a lot of the work they do is just government scams they hire each other for, and have been very disappointed with their services as medical providers.

My final observation is that I think East Asians are less of a problem than others groups. East Asians have some of the same issues but are very politically and socially passive and not as nakedly corrupt.

My stance is that there is still way to much top 1% talent in Asia to not try and aggressively recruit it, but I would set the bar high. I'm not particularly interested in bringing in mediocre tier Asians en mass.

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