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“Wasps have a nervous system, but most of us don’t have qualms about stepping on them”

—I don't know that this is true. I dislike animals in general and in particular have no love for wasps, but I wouldn't kill one for no reason. And this wrong argument is especially tricky because it is one of the only moments where you address the primary alternative to your enforced rigid binary: that “rights” (whatever they are) inhere in proportion to personhood, where personhood is a scalar property that amoebas have not at all and fully conscious humans have in full. As the embryo grows from effectively an amoeba to a fully conscious human, at some point the “right to not be killed” (ceteris paribus) is acquired. Maybe it is sometime in early childhood, but maybe it's pre-natal.

We can't know exactly, but that doesn't mean we must throw our hands up and flee to one extreme or the other. Many definitional questions, especially in the humanities, have a fuzzy border. When exactly did “the Roman Empire” fall? You could pick one of many answers, it's unclear—but that doesn't mean the Roman Empire never existed, nor that only the most extreme answers are valid. Exactly what counts as a heap of sand is another example in the philosophical literature. A single grain of sand isn't a heap. Most would argue that two grains, one on top of the other, aren't either. But a thousand grains of sand all together clearly are a heap. Our uncertainty about exactly where the cut-off lies in our definition doesn't mean we can't talk about heaps of sand, nor that we must pick an extreme answer. We can pick our cut-off for heaps of sand where it's beneficial to society to do so, and we can pick our cut-off for when personhood “rights” are acquired based on what's beneficial for society too.

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Louis CK has a bit about this, where it's either a simple operation or murder and can't be anything in between. +1 for comedians being the most honest. Tried to find the clip to link here, the first link on google is Vogue's take: Why Louis C.K.'s Abortion Jokes Fall Flat. Jesters not allowed in politics.

Do wonder how much we should want/expect consistency from laws? Whole idea of democracy is a set of compromises. If the underlying issue is irreconcilable then you either have to break the country up over it, or come to some non-logical but mutually palatable solution. Doubt this issue is the dealbreaker

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